The Difference Between Pool Clarifier and Flocculant

The Difference Between Pool Clarifier and Flocculant

57 thoughts on “The Difference Between Pool Clarifier and Flocculant

  1. Dang, my floc said to use “up to” 3 times the recommended dose of 8-oz. per 10k gallons. My pool is 10 k, that would make 3 times the dose 24-oz. I mistakenly added 32-oz. Did I create a problem by adding 4 times the recommended dose?

    1. Using too much floc may cause your pool to become cloudier, and a lot harder to clean. you will have to continue the process of removing floc as you normally would.

      You will also want to keep an eye on your pH, because certain types of floc can make you pH take a nosedive.

      1. Hi, I used flocculant as part of opening this season, had all the levels correct. I’ve used it in the past, have a sand filter, bipassed it. Everything like you should, it has only sat about 9 hours as I put the flocculant in kind of late last night…do I still allow it to sit all day or will the sun cause some havoc on the pool without the filter running for the day? (The water is not yet clear, it still looks like it’s collecting white debris together? ) TY so much!!

        1. I would stick to the instructions on the bottle. If it says to let it set for 18-24 hours, do so. Especially if your water is still cloudy, it’s still got work to do. If your chlorine takes a hit then you can just shock it once the flocculant has been removed.

      2. I mistakenly used flocculant with a cartridge filter so all it does is circulate the debris and make the water cloudy only to resettle again after the pump stops.
        Can you advise how to fix this problem?

        1. Flocculant would usually gum up the cartridge making water flow drop and filtering extremely hard. So, not only would water find it hard to get past your filter, so would any dirt. I believe your cartridge became so gummed up with floc that backpressure caused a tear or two allowing the dirt to bypass the filter. You will need to remove the cartridge and examine it for rips in the fabric and broken bands.

  2. I worked on my pool for 3 weeks last spring trying to clear the water when I opened my pool. I finally researched online & discovered a ‘floc’ product I had never used. WOW!… I had my pool sparkly clear in one day. I did have a lot of water waste from vacuuming but so worth it! I plan to use this process every spring when opening my pool then use clarifier to maintain. Very good article. I wish I had read this last winter.

      1. I just bought and used HTH Floc from Walmart. Did the trick for me and turned my pool clear after I put in the recommended amount overnight (dropped all the debris to the bottom).

  3. Matthew.. great information. I just had my pool resurfaced by a highly rated company using Florida Stucco Gem. We paid additional for a two week chemical “fire-up” treatment. After the resurface was complete and the pool was full of water, the company owner came in and began adding the necessary chemicals. One chemical used (as described to me) was intended to mitigate the water cloudiness associated with pool resurfacing that apparently binds these suspended particles with the intent of them making their way to the filter cartridge and, thus, out of the pool. Except the pool man came to the door the next day to tell us the particles were not making there way to the filter as intended and he advised they had to keep moving and not settle. I brushed a couple of times per day, but did not sleep in the pool and certainly couldn’t keep anything ‘moving’ 24 hours per day. The pool man recommended we replace our filter/cartridge assembly as the one we had was old in his opinion and not working well enough. We agreed and he came the next day to install a new one. As was known from the beginning of this process, we have no operable main drain.

    The next week while taking a swim in my newly remodeled pool, I noticed what appeared to be a 6 inch white spot at the bottom of the pool near the inoperable main drain. I went down to inspect and the area is very porous and not smooth like the area surrounding it. I noticed other similar, smaller areas with the same issue/defect. We asked our pool man about it and his answer was we didn’t keep the coagulated particles moving well enough, some rested on the bottom which damaged the new surface, but nothing can be done at this point. I was floored. Does any of this sound accurate. I am at a loss as to what to do. Please advise, if possible. Sorry for all the words.

    1. First, i would check any paperwork the installing company provided to confirm the aftercare chemical treatment was to be complted by the company or if it was your responsbility. If it was their responsibility and the source of the problem is their malpractice, then they should be responsible for repairing the pools urface.

      If the aftercare was down to you, there should have been a procedure sheet similar to this:

      Yes there should have been something like
      Day 1 – Add 1/2 gallon Muriatic Acid (careful not to breathe the fumes) Let the Pump run 24 hrs a day for 3 days.
      day 3 – Add 1/2 gallon Muriatic Acid then Brush the Pool in the AM and again in the PM. Always clean the filter after each brush. This helps the Plaster rid the calcium.
      Day 4 – Take a Pool water sample to local pool store for Testing and do accordingly.
      Day 5 – 30 Brush 1 time daily and always clean filter after
      This is just for the first 30 days.

      They could spot treat that spot with acid using a PVC adapter
      https://www.poolzoom.com/jandy-stainmaster.html?keword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuKu__P3s3QIVEYvICh1_zwOCEAQYAyABEgKgVPD_BwE

  4. This is very helpful. ? Do I add chlorine 1st and circulate water then put in the floc product. Or skip chlorine til after vac/backwash nd bring pool up to right ph

    1. Add chlorine after the floc and vac cycle. You will be dumping a good portion of your water during the floc removal process, which would waste chlorine. If your pH is already low, feel free to leave it, because flocculant raises pH levels anyway.

    2. This is the proper technique of you are opening your pool for spring and there is algae. If you don’t shock it and kill it then the floc.l cannot do its job properly. This is the technique taught by my pool store and I’ve done it the past 8 yeArs.

  5. I’m new to this pool maintenance thing and have been battling a slighlty green and cloudy pool for two weeks now. I’ve added clarifier just two days ago and saw this morning that the algae has settled at the bottom of the pool (when the filter/pump is off overnight). Should I be vacuuming on waste to remove this too? It seems to be very light and just mixes with the water too easily with any motion in the pool. I can also see small cellular looking blobs of green floating around the pool, which I also assume is normal to see when you use clarifier.
    I am hoping to have a clear and green-free pool by tomorrow (day 3). How can I expedite that? Can floc also be added in now after the clarifier?
    Thanks for any help you can give me – this newbie really needs it!

    1. The only way to clear your up green water is by maintaining high chlorine levels until the green turns cloudy white. The cloudiness in your water mixed with the green water is dead algae. The clarifier is not treating the cause of the problem, so once the clarifier dissipates, the algae are going to pop up. We have this guide that you should follow How to Clean a Green Pool

  6. Floced the pool three weeks ago. Everyday since, I have vacuumed on waste. How long will this go on? Seems like an endless task

  7. We just had a massive rain that washed dirt from our new gardens into our pool. It’s a muddy mess. My pool store recommended we use Flocculant to clear it up. I have followed the instructions and by 8am tomorrow morning the pump will have been off for 16 hours. I’m hoping it will have done it’s job by then and I can vacuum. My question is: how do you know you’ve removed *all* of th flocculant? If I miss a little bit and turn the filter on (sand filter) will it really damage it? I’m worried I might miss some and cause damage. Thanks so much! Helpful article 🙂

  8. How does flocking a pool affect a pool heater connected to a sand filter? The water will be pumped to waste but will go through the heater. Obviously the heater will not be running.

    1. The floc can go through the heater without causing any damage, but I would refer to your specific floc bottle’s instructions to confirm there are no warnings as such. Also, going by your descriptions it sounds like your heater is in between your pump and your filter. Or is your waste line somehow diverted through your heater?

  9. Help! I’m frustrated. I flocked our pool did everything right. Backwashed this morning before work and was amazed at how well the pool went from green to clear overnight. Here’s the big BUT…I planned on coming straight home from work to vacuum and get it back looking fabulous again. But kids came home from gmas and of course, jumped in the pool and stirred it all up. Anything I can do to get it back to the floor to vacuum out? Do I just wait till it settles again or do I need to put something else in?

  10. Hello I have an above-ground Intex pool it’s 52 inch high and 24 foot round I’ve been working on it for about a month-and-a-half and it will not come clear it looks like milk I do not have the waste setting on my filter so I don’t know how I can use the flock could I just backwash it out please help I’m going crazy I’ve wasted hundreds and hundreds of dollars just for all different kinds of chemicals thank you in advance

      1. What happens if you get flock or HTH green to blue in your sand filter, I vacuumed to waste and ran the filter and also then vacuumed it regular, my pool is cloudy and when I backwash the water is clear. HELP

  11. I have a saltwater pool and my pump has a turbo cell. My pump has the waste function so if I put flock in my pool then vacuum to waste, will it mess up the cell???

  12. Hi Matthew, I used Aluminum Sulfate to floc my pool trying to get rid of high pollen. The pool was crystal clear with globs of slime looking debris at the bottom next morning. I used a Dolphin automatic cleaner to vacuum which was a mistake as it stirred up all the slime debris and now the pool is a blue haze so cloudy. What do I do now? I have a manual vaccum and can vacuum to waste but I don’t know how to attach the vacuum to get suction. My pool has 2 skimmer baskets and I don’t know which side is suction and which is return. Ideally I am wondering if I can add a clarifier and let the filter do the work now or is it too late ?

    1. The suction ports of your inground pool are the main drains, skimmers and some have dedicated suction lines. The most comment way to hook a manual vacuum is connecting a hose through your skimmer. The video and guide on this link will show you how to set up your pool equipment for vacuuming: How To Manually Vacuum A Pool

      For now, I would vacuum first, and see how your pool water looks afterward. Also, your pool equipment should valves that can open and close your skimmer’s lines. If you go the route of vacuuming through your skimmer port, try closing the unused skimmer line to increase suction throuwh the hose.

  13. My pool place told me to use floc last year … me not knowing any better used it not knowing that it can’t be used with a cartridge filter I don’t not have a vacuum to waste option now here we are this year opened my pool today and floc is still on the bottom of my pool HELPPPPPP … WHAT I CAN I DO BESIDES EMPTY MY POOL WE JUST FILLED

    1. Becky,
      I don’t have a vacuum to waste option with my filter either but I got around it by creating a siphon vacuum using just the vacuum head and hose.

      Submerge your vacuum and hose like you normally would but instead of hooking the hose to suction, drop the end over the edge of the pool (I use a small bungee to keep the hose from sliding around on the top rail while I’m working). This creates a siphon that will accomplish the same goal as vacuum to waste.

  14. I used floc last night, and it has been over 12 hours that I have not been running the pump. The water is mostly a cloudy blue with pockets of whitish scum on the surface. I still cannot see the bottom of the pool and cannot tell if there is anything on the bottom to vacuum. What do you suggest? Thanks!

  15. Hey, these are great tips!

    My situation is that we have a mesh safety cover on during the winter which leaves us with a nearly full pool with quite a lot of fine dirt and silt settled on the bottom when it is time to open. Running the Polaris just stirs it up and the mesh is not fine enough to capture it either. So I am looking at using a flocculant and possibly investing in a vacuum that I can direct manually. I have a cartridge filter so running it off the skimmer is not ideal.

    So my question is what type (Brand? Model?) of vacuum do you suggest that will either discharge over the side, or into its own canister ?

    Thanks!

    1. I use a vacuum head and hose that I purchased from Walmart to siphon vacuum. Submerge your vacuum and hose like you normally would to purge air, then drop the end of the hose over the side of the pool below the water line. Doing this creates a siphon the sucks everything out to waste. You’ll lose a good quantity of water in the process but as least you’ll have the nastiness from the floc product out of your pool!

  16. This article grabs your attention by stating that your pool could be clear the next day – with floc and some work. I haven’t found any that required less than 24-48 hours of resting time. Even 24 hours would be great because I’ve never had anything work under 48 hours. Which brand are you talking about? I’d love to see a difference in just a few hours!!!

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