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Can
I build my own pool? Yes you can! Subcontracting the
build of your own swimming pool is not rocket science.
At INYOpools.com, we have seen a huge trend in homeowners
building their own swimming pools. When most people
think of building their own pool, they think that
they would be like the professional pool contractor out digging the hole for the pool, doing
the plumbing and electrical, etc.- but this is not
the case. Most pool contractors do not do the actual
labor of building the pool themselves. Pool builders
act as general contractors (GC) and subcontract the
building of the pool to various subcontractors (subs),
so when you purchase a pool from your local pool company,
they are organizing the build of your pool through
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The builder would arrange for a sub to dig the hole, another sub for the plumbing, another for the electrical and so on. Essentially, the act of building a pool is really just the act of assembling the proper subcontractors to build the pool for you. What kind of savings can you expect to see by doing all the legwork yourself? The savings are substantial - expect to save in the neighborhood of $10,000 to $15,000! Below are quotes from 4 different pool builders for the same pool, followed by the Homeowner Builder price:
Pool Builder #1 - $50,245
Pool Builder #2 - $45,950
Pool Builder #3 - $50,438
Pool Builder #4 - $48,105
Homeowner Builder - $35,416
As you can see, there is an advantage to doing this yourself!
When talking with our customers we find out that many
are amazed at the increased cost of a new pool and that
you do not get much pool for the money. As the GC of your
own pool, you can add many of the upgrades to your pool
that you would not be able to afford through a pool builder.
Many times the cost of the pool with all of the upgrades
is less than the builder’s price with the standard
equipment and features. Once again, as the GC of your pool,
you are not actually building the pool and you do not
have to be a professional in any of the individual components
which make up pool building. As the GC you will be responsible
for hiring the different subs who are professionals in
their trade. It is always a good idea to read up on the
process of building a pool as well as research the individual
phases of building the pool so you are as well versed
as possible when you interview or hire your different
subcontractors to build your pool. As a GC, your main responsibility
will be scheduling the different subs to build the pool,
so it will be important that you know the process in which
the subs should be scheduled.Some good questions to ask
yourself before you make the decision to build a swimming
pool are as follows:
| 1. Planning & Design is the first thing you will want to consider before constructing your pool. We have listed several important questions to ask during the Pool Design phase. |
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| 2. Contact potential subcontractors to bid on your pool. This process will also help you determine the work order of the subcontractors. We have found that finding the first subs for your pool build is one of the most difficult phases of the pool build. Some recommendations for finding your first subs would be to look through the local Yellow Pages, contact friends who have built their own pool or visit the local pool supply store. Once you have contacted your first sub it will now be easier to locate additional subs. For example, let’s say the first sub you contacted was a layout sub. Once you have finished talking with this sub you would want to ask them if they could recommend a plumbing or electrical sub. |
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You now would call the recommended plumbing or electrical sub and once again when you have finished talking with them you would want to ask for recommendations on additional subs. When contacting a Sub Contractor you should ask the following questions:
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Do
you work with Homeowner Builders? If not, can you
recommend a sub who does?
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What
part of the pool building process are you responsible
for?
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What does the complete job encompass?
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Do you require anything from me before you start
your work?
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What materials/equipment do you supply?
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Is there anything you are expecting me to provide?
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Am I responsible for picking up any material or
equipment or will you be bringing all the equipment/materials?
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Which phase of the pool building process do you
usually come in on?
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Which subs comes before you and which subs comes
after you? Also, can you provide a run down of
the sequence of all subs for the pool building
process?
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Is there a discount for cash payments?
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Will you sign this informal contract detailing
all the work that you are planning to do and when
you plan on completing it by?
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Can I bring in an independent inspector to check
your work when you’re done?
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Do you do this special feature?
After asking the sub the above questions you will want
to FAX the sub a copy of your pool design and ask them
to bid on your project. You may also want to ask the
sub for any input on your design, if they think any
areas may have issues or many not meet code. For a typical
gunite pool build the subs would be scheduled as listed below.
Vinyl and Fiberglass pools are slightly different, so
we will outline any differences in there process at
the end of this section.
Gunite Pools
Planning & Pool Design –
This is the first step in the pool building process
and many homeowner builders undertake this task themselves.
There is much pool design software on the market
including AutoCad and Adobe, as well as many online pool
design solutions. The sub you choose will probably have
seen pool drawings done in just about any format from
pencil sketches to detailed computer drawings. We would
suggest doing your design through a software program
as it will eliminate confusion with the subs. If you
do not feel comfortable doing your own pool design,
there are many companies that can help in this phase
including http://www.pooleng.com/ , http://www.pooltemplates.com/
, http://pooldesignsoftware.com/ http://www.poolspaworld.com/.
Structural Engineering - responsible
for drawing up the engineering drawings that determine
the stress forces throughout your pool. They take into
account pool depths, proximity to property lines and
house lines. The structural engineering drawings will
determine how much steel rebar is necessary to support
the pool. We recommend to do your structural engineering
drawings with http://www.pooleng.com/.
City Permits – Most cities require
that you fill out an application along with your structural
drawings. The city will review the plans and request
any corrections required by the Codes to be made. Typically
A swimming pool permit issued by your city or county
is required prior to starting any work on your pool.
Call Before you Dig / Blue Stake – This service is typically free and gets your underground
utility lines marked and helps prevent undesired consequences
like broken gas or plumbing lines.
Layout – Draws the shape of the
pool on the ground which excavators will use to dig
the hole.
Excavation - responsible for digging
the hole where your pool will be. Most excavators use
a backhoe, but in projects with limited access, a Bobcat
may be used. In extreme cases, they will come in with
a large crew to do a hand dig. The excavators will form
the steps, benches, and other structural features in
your pool such as a beach entry.
Plumbing - responsible for installing
all PVC piping and pool equipment required for pool
filtration. The pool equipment includes pumps, filters,
heaters, chlorination systems, and cleaning systems.
It is important to let the plumber know that you will
be providing all of your own equipment as this is an
area where you may save a lot of $$$$. The equipment
that you will need for the plumbing phase is Main
Drains, Skimmers, Pool
Pump, Pool
Filter, Pool
Heater, Pool
Chlorinator, Eyeball Fittings, Wall
Fittings, Water
Leveler, Pool
Waterfalls, Jandy Valves, Spa Blower & Spa
Jets
For more information on choosing the proper pool
filter
For
more information on choosing the proper pool
heater
For more information on alternatives
to chlorine
For more information on pool
plumbing diagrams
Product Links
Gas - If you are building a pool or
spa that uses a natural-gas heater, or other features
which use Natural Gas you will need to contact a Gas
company. They will put in all the natural gas lines
needed for this equipment. In some states, the gas work
requires a separate permit and inspection. Normally
the gas sub will take of this as a part of the job they
do.
Electrical – The electrician
lays the electrical lines that will operate your pumps,
timers, remotes, and pool/spa lights. The electrician
can also add as much extra electrical work as you need
for your overall backyard project. The equipment needed
prior to the electrical phase will be pool
light niches, pool
controls and swimming pool lighting
For more information on choosing the proper swimming
pool controls
For more information on choosing the proper swimming
pool lights
Product Links
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Steel - responsible for laying down
the steel rebar frame that forms the reinforcement for
your pool shell before the shotcrete is shot.
Shotcrete - responsible for forming
the shell of your pool. Shotcrete is a mixture of concrete
and other materials that is sprayed on using a high-pressure
nozzle to form a hardened shell.
Rockwork (Optional) - responsible for
any rock water features in and around the pool prior
to the deck being poured. This includes standard waterfalls,
grottos, and accent boulders around the perimeter of
the pool.
Deck - responsible for the decking
area around the pool. Kooldeck has been the standard
for years, but more recently, Acrylic decking is getting
popular as it can be applied in a variety of different
finishes and it is more durable. Flagstone, Pavers,
Travertine, and other exotic stones are being used in
new creative applications.
Tile - responsible for installing the
tile inside the pool and along the waterline of the
pool.
Fence or Screen Enclosure - responsible
for installing the fencing around the perimeter of the
pool that is required to meet code in most cities. In
most cases, this is a standard aluminum fence. In warmer
climates many people will opt for a screen enclosure
instead of a fence.
Cleanup - after the shotcrete, rockwork,
deck work, and tile work is done, the pool will be quite
a mess. Cleanup is responsible for hauling away all
the trash before the interior of the pool is installed.
They also do the final grading (or regrading) of the
land around the pool (if possible), since it will have
been torn up pretty badly by all the other prior subs.
They also make sure the deck, pool lights, and all the
peripheral areas are cleaned up prior to final interior.
Interior / Marcite - responsible for
installing the interior finish of the pool. Standard
marcite plaster has been the interior of choice for
years, but that is giving way to a new generation of
advanced interior products. Exposed aggregate pebble
interiors (like Pebble-Tec, Baja Pebble, or SunStone)
are getting popular now. Just in the Pebble arena, there
are many variations like Pebble-Sheen (from Pebble-Tec
that uses smaller, smoother stones which is gentler
on skin), Pebble Smooth (from Baja Pebble that actually
grinds and polishes the exposed stones to a mirror-like
tile finish), or what is considered the top-of-the-line
marble-like finish Hydrazzo by Aquavations. Quartz is
also getting popular with a variety of different brands
available - Colorquartz/3M, Diamond Brite/SGM, and Krystal-Krete/CLI.
Acid Wash - this is done by the interior
subs as a part of the overall work to clean away the
surface plaster haze from the finish after the pool
interior has had time to dry.
Startup - responsible for giving you
all the tools and startup chemicals needed to get you
going along with some introductory instructions on pool
startup and maintenance. We would suggest purchasing
a Chemical
Start Up Kit which includes all of the proper chemicals
to start up and maintain your pool as well as New
Pool maintenance kit which includes all of the items
need to clean your pool on a regular basis.
City / County Inspection - After completion
of your pool build the county / city will come out to
the final inspection of your pool.
Above we have outlined the process of building a Gunite
Pool which is the most popular style of pool. There
are two other types of pools, though: Vinyl & Fiberglass.
The building process for vinyl and fiberglass pools
is the same as a gunite pool except where we have noted
below:
There are three types of inground pools: fiberglass,
vinyl, and concrete. Each needs a pump, filter, drains,
returns, plastic piping, and chemical feeder. Fiberglass pools are noted for their
relatively quick installation, non-abrasive finish that
resists staining, and inert composition that inhibits
algae formation. Fiberglass pools are manufactured in
a variety of shapes. The one you choose will arrive
preformed in one piece. Because it is delivered to your
site and needs to be dropped into place with a crane,
accessto the backyard area must be available. Once the pool is in place
and leveled, heating, filtration, and other systems
are set up. The crew then backfills the site and fills
the pool with water. If you choose fiberglass, you’ll
want to compare the materials used, production methods,
and warranties.
Vinyl liner pools are known for their smooth,
stain-resistant surface, and usually come as packages. Design
options may be limited, but they are typically less
expensive than fiberglass and gunite pools. Depending
on the soil composition, once the excavation is complete,
a wall system is constructed of wood, poured concrete,
steel, and aluminum or polymer. Bottom material might be
of packed sand that is free of stones or poured concrete.
Once the vinyl liner is installed and systems are set
up, the site is backfilled and the pool is filled with water. Liners
may have to be replaced about every 10 years, depending
on usage and location.
3. Selecting the subcontractors. It
is now time to choose the subs that will be building
your pool. Below we have listed a guide to help you
choose the proper subs for the job:
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Must be licensed, bonded, and insured. This is the
single most important thing you can do when you
hire a sub. If you insist that all your subs are
licensed, you will have taken the single most important
step in minimizing the amount of headaches you will
encounter during the pool project and in the years
to follow. Getting subs who are licensed, bonded
and insured puts a lot of safety mechanisms on your
project to protect you from getting scammed. You
can to the Registrar of Contractors (ROC) in your
state to find out this information. Using a licensed
and bonded sub allows you to file a complaint with
the Registrar of Contractors to get compensation
should they mess up badly. You can file a claim
with the state to recover your loss if something
should go terribly wrong. You can file a claim up
to 2 years after you detect a problem in the workmanship
of the sub's product. They will arbitrate cases and will suspend
a subs license if they determine that the sub is
at fault and they are not responding to the problem.
When a sub's license is suspended, they can't work
and that's exactly the kind of leverage you want.
Being licensed with the ROC also guarantees that
the work that they do is warranteed for 2 years.
The "insured" part is to guarantee that
you are not held liable if one of the crew from
your subs gets injured.
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Must have a clean record with the ROC. Your state
ROC website is great for this. You may find out
who has outstanding complaints against them, how
many, how many were closed and which are still outstanding.
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Must be reputable in their trade – You should
be able to get references and referrals from others
who have used the sub. Ask other pool owners who
GC'ed their pool and ask them for recommendations.
Ask other subs about subs they would recommend.
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Must have a minimum amount of experience in that
trade and in the pool industry. The subs should
have at least a year or two of industry experience.
As a first cut, go to the RoC website to see how
long they've had their license. This will give you
a rough estimate of how long they've been in the
trade. A few good questions to ask your subs would
be how long they've been working on pools and if
they currently work for any of the major pool builders.
If they are currently working with pool builders,
ask them how many pools they do a year or have done
since they started. Ask them how many pools they've
done in your city. This is helpful because it identifies
who has experience with the codes and regulations
for your city, which may be different in the next
city.
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Understand that you are not a pool expert - because
of this fact, you will need to lean heavily on your
subs to explain things to you. Get the best. You
will be light years ahead of the game by going with
subs who have done thousands of pool in their lifetime.
4. Collect bids from the subcontractors that
made the cut. Fax copies of your pool design
to subs. Call the sub first on the phone to speak
with them in person and explain that you are a homeowner
wanting to build a pool on your own and ask if they
work directly with home owners. Almost all subs will
work with homeowners. In actuality, most subs would
rather work with homeowners because they get paid
quicker. As you have them on the phone, you will be
able to get the information listed in step 4 above.
For the bid make sure they include the following:
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Line-itemization of all the parts or equipment
they will use and a detailed list of work charges
if applicable.
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Warranties and what things are warranteed
separately from the standard 2 years.
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What is the cash price (usually they will
give you a 5% discount for cash payment).
Ask the sub to let you know what they need from
you info-wise to include in the FAX. After that, fax
them the drawing and wait for the bid to be FAXed
back. Whatever is missing from the drawing must be added to the FAX
cover sheet. Make sure to got bids from multiple subs
from each trade, most of the time, try to get at least
three. This insures that a particular sub is not over-charging
you. Most of the subs in our example came within 10% of each other. Having
a line itemization helps because then you can compare
the quote line by line to see where the discrepancies
are.
5. Making the final subcontractor selections.
Believe it or not, this is typically the hardest part
in the process. If the bids come out over $500 different
(and you determine that all else is equal - ie. reputable,
multiple referrals, clean record at ROC, etc.), you
should just go with the less costly bid. Sometimes
there are some extenuating circumstances that will
make you go with the higher priced bid. For example,
when choosing excavators, if you continue to hear
the name of a sub being mentioned over and over again
by others and you are told they are simply the best
then it may be a good idea to splurge the extra $$.
List below are typical equipment lists for Pool only
builds and Pool & Spa builds. We have listed a
standard equipment package which would be the most
basic equipment, and we have also listed an upgraded
equipment package which includes upgraded equipment.
Standard POOL ONLY Equipment List
Swimming
Pool Pumps
Swimming
Pool Filters
Pool
Chlorinator
Wall
fittings (different for vinyl)
Eyeball fittings
Anti-Vortex
Main Drain (different for vinyl)
Swimming
Pool Lighting (Voltage)
Intermatic
Transformers (if 12V)
Pool
Light Niche (different for vinyl)
Letro
Auto Fill
Jandy
Valves
Hayward
Skimmers (different for vinyl)
Intermatic
Timers
Standard
Maintenance Kit
Pool
Chemical Start Up Kit
Standard POOL & SPA Equipment List
Swimming
Pool Pumps
Spa
Pumps
Pool & Spa Heater
Swimming
Pool Filters
Spa
Jets
Spa Jet Internals
Spa
Blower
Wall
fittings (different for vinyl)
Eyeball fittings
Anti-Vortex
Main Drain (different for vinyl)
Swimming
Pool Lighting (Voltage)
Spa
Lighting
Intermatic
Transformers if 12V
Pool
Light Niche (different for vinyl)
Spa
Light Niche
Letro
Auto Fill
Jandy
Valves
Hayward
Skimmers (different for vinyl)
Intermatic
Timers
Pool
Chlorinator
Standard
Maintenance Kit
Pool
Chemical Start Up Kit
Add on options & upgrades
Pool
Heaters / Swimming
Pool Heat Pump / Solar
Pool Heating
Pool
Controls
Salt
Chlorine Generator & Pool
Alternative Sanitizers
Automatic
Pool Cleaners
Fiber
Optics
LED
Pool and Spa Lights
Pool
Waterfalls
Diving
Boards
Swimming
Pool Slide
Ladder
& Rails
Swimming
Pool Covers
Pool
Alarms
Inyo's Suggested equipment List
for POOL ONLY Builds
Model
Number |
Item |
Fiberglass
& Vinyl Liner Equivalent |
Typical
Order Qty. |
Price |
Description
(Purchase) |
SP2610X15 |
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N/A |
1 |
$299.99 |
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C17502 |
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N/A |
1 |
$319.99 |
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R171096 |
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N/A |
1 |
$59.95 |
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SP0581100 |
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N/A |
1 |
$228.99 |
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PX300 |
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N/A |
1 |
$118.99 |
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2135 |
|
N/A |
1 |
$39.95 |
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SP0600U |
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|
1 |
$51.99 |
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SP1022S |
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5 |
$6.95 |
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SP1419D |
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N/A |
5 |
$4.95 |
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SP1154AV |
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1 |
$49.95 |
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SP10702 |
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2 |
$64.99 |
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T40FW |
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N/A |
1 |
$69.00 |
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9CF112 |
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1 |
$349.99 |
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D2W |
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N/A |
1 |
$299.99 |
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4715 |
|
N/A |
2 |
$49.99 |
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7235 |
|
N/A |
1 |
$48.99 |
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T104P3 |
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N/A |
1 |
$82.99 |
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NY998 |
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N/A |
1 |
$289.99 |
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NA392 |
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N/A |
1 |
$89.95 |
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Inyo's Suggested equipment List
for POOL & SPA Combinations
Model
Number |
Item |
Fiberglass
& Vinyl Liner Equivalent |
Typical
Order Qty. |
Price |
Description
(Purchase) |
SP3015X20AZ |
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N/A |
1 |
$389.99 |
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C17502 |
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N/A |
1 |
$319.99 |
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H400FD |
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N/A |
1 |
$1754.99 |
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R171096 |
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N/A |
1 |
$59.95 |
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SP0590SL100 |
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N/A |
1 |
$194.99 |
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SP0581100 |
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N/A |
1 |
$228.99 |
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PX300 |
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N/A |
1 |
$118.99 |
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PX100 |
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N/A |
1 |
$101.99 |
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2135 |
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N/A |
1 |
$39.95 |
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SP0600U |
|
|
1 |
$51.99 |
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SP0601U |
|
|
1 |
$6.95 |
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SP1022S |
|
|
5 |
$6.95 |
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SP1419D |
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N/A |
5 |
$4.95 |
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SP1154AV |
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2 |
$49.95 |
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SP10702 |
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2 |
$64.99 |
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T40FW |
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N/A |
1 |
$69.00 |
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9CF112 |
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|
1 |
$349.99 |
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D2W |
|
N/A |
1 |
$299.99 |
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4715 |
|
N/A |
4 |
$49.99 |
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4716 |
|
N/A |
1 |
$44.99 |
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7235 |
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N/A |
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