Step 4
Yet another way to resolve a chlorine lock is to reach what is called breakpoint chlorination. Breakpoint chlorination is the point where the chemical bond that ties nitrogen, chlorine and ammonia together by using large amounts of chlorine. This will cause the chlorine residual to drop rapidly. Reaching a true chlorine breakpoint is vital to breaking a chlorine lock. If breakpoint is not reached using this method, the problem will only get worse. To accomplish a breakpoint, 7.6 free chlorine molecules are used to break apart an individual combined chlorine molecule. The amount of product you will need will vary depending on the type of shock you are using. Aside from knowing your total chlorine, free chlorine, number of gallons in the pool, and the weight of a gallon of water (8.34 lbs.), you will also need to know the type of pool shock you are using. Before attempting this method, the pH needs to be between 7.2-7.4. This equation will be a two part process. The first step will be determining the ppm of chlorine needed to reach breakpoint: (TC-FC) x 10. Using the same amount above, the equation would look like this: (5-3) x 10 = x ppm or 2 x 10 = 20 ppm. I will need 20 ppm of chlorine to reach breakpoint in this 15,000 gallon pool. The next step is to determine how much product I will need. I'm using calcium hypochlorite in this example and need 2 oz. per 10,000 for a 1 ppm increase. I'll need to multiply 2 oz. x (gallons in pool/10,000) x (ppm needed/ppm dosage) which simply put is: 2 oz. x (15,000/10,000) x (20 ppm/1 ppm) or 2 oz x 1.5 x 20= 60 oz. To convert ounces to pounds, I divide by 16: 60 oz./16= 3.75 lbs. So to reach breakpoint in my 15,000 gallon pool I will need 3.75 lbs. of calcium hypochlorite.
Surika Posted: 12/19/2018
Good day. I have an issue with my pool. (I do not know how many liters or Gallons the pool is) The PH is Balanced, The Alkalinity is balanced, the Acid is balanced, the amount of Back washing is balanced but the Chlorine is non existent. I have shocked the pool,I have added a de flogger, I have vacuumed the pool on waste, I have back washed the pool every second day now and filled up with water and I have added 3kg of chlorine already but nothing comes up on my tester stating that there is chlorine in the pool. We will be replacing the Sand this weekend to see if this will sort out the issue, but the pool is still a misty green blue colour. I cannot keep putting in chlorine into the pool. I have also bought a Stabiliser to see if that would help but I do not just want to put that in the pool and do more harm than good. Please can you help me?Reply
InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S. Posted: 12/19/2018
Hello Surika - To know how much chlorine to put in first we would need to know the pool size in gallons. There are online pool volume calculators that can help with this part. Second, we would need to know the actual number values of your water chemistry; for example, CYA = 80, pH = 7.4, Alkalinity = 100.Also, if your water is bluish-green, then it sounds like you have the beginnings of an algae bloom. Your chlorine is likely being exhausted from trying to combat the algae problem. You need to maintain shock levels in your pool until the green tint goes away. Read: How to Clean a Green Pool?. But again, to know the necessary shock levels for your pool, you need to know the pool size and water chemistry values.Reply
Anonymous Posted: 12/20/2018
Thanks for the reply. I Vacuumed the swimming pool last night to get rid of the dust at the bottom, drained quite a bit of water and refilled (Will fill up to full capacity this afternoon). The swimming pool looks much better this morning. We will also replace the sand this weekend and I think then we will be ready to go. What I can tell you is that the pool is 1.3 meters deep, 6 meters in length and 4 meters in width. I will check if the pool goes green and add a Algae remover. Thanks againReply
Inyopools Posted: 5/17/2018
Hello Blinded - The method of adding more chlorine to break chlorine lock sounds weird but it does work. There is no easy method but draining and refilling is the route that I usually recommend.Reply
Blinded Posted: 5/15/2018
I am just jammed up on this Chlorine issue. I have a 62,500 gallon pool. ph is 7.5 free Chlorine is .9 and total is 9.8 Hardness is 342 Alk is 241 They told me to put 68 pounds of Calcium Hydrochlorite in. I am just baffled. They keep saying the pool will break. So why put more chlorine in. I double shocked it. Going to hope something changes. I need devine help. BlindedReply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 8/29/2017
Jimmymag - It sounds like you are at the point where you have to replace 18" to 24" of your water. If your nitrates are high that could be causing what appears to be chlorine lock. See "Anonymous" posted on 5/31 for a similar problem and solution.Reply
Jimmymag Posted: 8/27/2017
I have a problem similar to the one that Ray posted on 8/23/17. I have 26,500 gal. plaster lined pool. I have been using liquid sodium hypochlorite (10%) which I had to add a gallon every couple of days to keep the level above 2ppm. The ph gradually increased to 7.8. I added some muriatic acid to bring the ph down a little. After doing this, a problem developed with the chlorine. The FC level dropped to zero. To shock, I added 2 gallons and checked the FC after a couple of hours and it was about a three so, I added 2 more gallons late in the day Over night the FC reading was zero. I went to pool supply to have water tested. They said the the cyuratic acid level had dropped to zero. They recommend using 5 lb. of di-chlor to superchlorinate. I did this and the previously clear water turned cloudy like Ray’s did. I ran the pump for about 16 hours but the water was the same. I added some old clarifier that I had and that cleared the water. I superchlorinated with the liquid and again the FC dropped to zero in 12 hours (overnight) . Pool supply recommend something they call “Purge” . Added that and ran pump for 24 hrs and thoroughly cleaned filter. I had water tested and ph still 7.4 and cy acid and all other tested good. I superchlorinated with liquid and again overnight the FC was zero and the water is sparkling clear with no signs of algae. Pool supply retested and all readings were good except that phosphates were 300. They had no answer to the chlorine problem. I shocked again with the same result. Back to pool supply and they ran an additional test for nitrates. Nitrates were high and they said there is no chemical treatment for nitrates and that replacing some of the water was the only way to lower nitrates. There is no chlorine odor My question for you is… could the nitrates be causing the chlorine problem? Thanks, JimReply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 8/25/2017
Ray - What is your stabilizer level. If it's 0-20, you will have to add more to protect the chlorine from being burned away by the sun. If it's at the 100 level, you may have too much stabilizer in the pool which locks up the chlorine and gives you a 0 reading. The only way to reduce stabilizer is by draining a foot or so of the pool's water.Reply
Ray Posted: 8/23/2017
I have a 33,000 gallon in ground plaster pool. I actually have a 2 part question. My first question is regarding chlorine. For some reason my pool zeros out on chlorine weekly. I am not sure why. All my test readings always come back fine except the chlorine. Any knowledge on why that is? My 2nd question is regarding cloudy water. My pool was fine a week ago and then out of nowhere my pool looks like a milky white. I can see the bottom in the shallow end of the pool, but cannot see the bottom in the deep end. I tried non-chlorine shock, water clarifier and ran the filter for 24 hours during this process. Nothing changed. Any other ideas would be great. Thank you very much.Reply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 8/15/2017
jjcresci - I'm not sure I have enough information to know what your problem is. If you have drained a significant amount of your pool water, like 1/3, you shouldn't have chlorine lock - if you even did. Your chemical numbers like ok except for your FC. How long have you had no chlorine in your pool? If it's more than a couple of days, your pool should have become cloudy by now. Did your chemical readings come from a local pool store? If not, I would have them check your FC. The function of non-chlorine shock is to oxidize chlorine. If you have no FC, I'd question its use. If your pool is starting to cloud over, I'd add a couple of bags of regular shock to see if that brings your FC up and clears your pool.Reply
jjcresci Posted: 8/13/2017
my pool was fine until my timer went.had to be off 4-5 days .I replaced timer. My pool was cloudy. So i got it running within 48 hrs it was clear. now pool has 0 fc.about 10,000 gallons
ph 7.6
Alk 130
stabilizer 80 always been 80
calcium 200
this is a vinyl liner pool that is crystal clear ,but 0 fc will not hold FC and no alge at all
any ideas i did drain water and i'm thinking of useing non chlorine shock.
Help
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InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 7/25/2017
Jennhurley59 - Not sure what is going on here. "Chlorine lock" means that the chlorine in your pool is ineffective - cannot eliminate algae. Even if you were able to break the chlorine lock without adding chlorine, I don't know how you avoided growing algae without adding chlorine for two months. If you are now seeing algae growth, I would shock the pool and begin adding regular levels of chlorine plus add whatever chemicals you need to balance the pool.Reply
Jennhurley59 Posted: 7/24/2017
My pool had "chlorine lock", cya levels through the roof we drained and refilled for weeks. Along with adding no chemicals, no algae grew for over 2 months. Now pool is finally turning green, is this a good thing?Reply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 7/13/2017
Lifetimelinda - I'd check your CYA reading again. Adding more CYA to your pool if it has a 100+ reading is going the wrong way. Too much CYA can lead to chemical lock. I'd lean more towards draining 20% or your pool (generally 12' to 18") then adding non-chlorine shock (step 2). See "Anonymous" comment 4 comments down.Reply
Lifetimelinda Posted: 7/11/2017
The pool store is saying I have a chemical lock. My readings were chlorine 3, ph below 7, phosphate 1000 and cynaric acid 100++. They suggested I drain 3/4 of my pool and start over. Went for second opinion and they said I had no stabilizer,start with getting it up, then work on alkalinity and then ph. We are pool newbies. So confused so starting with the stabilizer. We have small pool, just 12000 gal. Any thoughts.Reply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 6/13/2017
hamnut - It sounds like you have dumped a lot of chlorine in the pool already without much success. I would try draining a foot to 18" of your pool water, then adding shock like "Anonymous" did as stated in the third comment down.Reply
hamnut Posted: 6/13/2017
I was told I have chlorine lock over the weekend by my pool store. here are the numbers from their testing:PH: 7.8
Alkalinity: 19
Free Chlorine: 0
Total Chlorine: 6.6
Hardness: 281
CYA: 150
They told me to add 18 pounds of shock. I added 20#s Sunday night and left the pump running all night. I checked the pool water last night again the Free Chlorine is 0 and the Total Chlorine is is about 7 (I use test strips but I do have a reagent test kit.)
PH looked about the same as did the Alkalinity. CYA was still above 100.
I have read about "Chlorine Lock" for the 2 hours and there is a wide variety of opinions. So I am about to add liquid Chlorine. I can get it at the pool store for about $5/gal and get Clorox Bleach at the local food store for about the same price. I am going to try 6 ga. at first. I think I want to stay away from the shock due to my hardness being high.
Does this sound like a good plan?
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InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 6/2/2017
Anonymous (chlorine block) - Thank you for your feedback! It's always good to get alternative approaches.Reply
Anonymous Posted: 5/31/2017
Thank the Lord, we now have FC! After putting nearly 25 pounds of shock into our pool to no avail, Leslie's pool employee was the answer to our prayer. I told her that our pool was eating chlorine and she said we needed to check for nitrates. The water was positive. She told us to drain the pool about 18 inches to 2 ft. and fill it back up. We did and followed with a super shock. It held and was still 10 the next day!Reply
Rod n Aurora Posted: 5/22/2017
I am draining my pool as I read these comments. Spent a lot of money on chemicals including chlorine free shock and was never able to get ph correct. Finally supply company guy checked my water and gave me the good news...chlorine block. Hope this effort solves my issues now need to determine proper amount of stabilizer when refill is complete. Thanks to all who have gone down this road and provided valued input on finding a solution. Have a great summer.Reply
Anonymous Posted: 8/15/2016
ive never ever heard of stabilizer stopping chlorine from sanitizing, and i work at a pool store where our everyday job is to fix these types of problems, testing the water and adjusting the chemical balance and whatnot. do you end up accumulating a larger ppm of chlorine over time because of it? yes. The only thing weve ever found that really stops chlorine from sanitizing is phosphates and nitrates. before you try any of these wacky equations, get a test specifically for phosphates and nitrates. if its either of these, depending on the level, get a phosphate remover and it should take care of the problem. however, there is nothing on the market thats proven to remove nitrates. but we have experimented and found that a strong, commercial grade phosphate remover does help with the nitratesReply
MarkyMark Posted: 8/13/2016
Chlorine lock due to high stabilizer is a heated topic in the pool maintenance industry. I personally believe it is largely a myth and/or overstated. There have been real world studies done on residential pools measuring the amount of stabilizer vs the amount of bacteria and algae present. The studies show that stabilizer levels all the way up to 400 ppm had no impact on chlorine's ability to fight bacteria and algae.Reply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 6/18/2016
low CYA - High cyanuric acid level is one of the contributing causes of chlorine lock. It is also caused by high levels of contaminates that build up over time when water in the pool isn't changed out.Reply
Anonymous Posted: 6/16/2016
What if cyanuric acid is low?Reply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 6/14/2016
Catdog - You have too much "stabilizer" not "sanitizer". Stabilizer, or cyanuric acid, is added to help reduce the loss of chlorine due to direct sunlight.Reply
Catdog Posted: 6/12/2016
I don't understand? If I have chlorine lock, which I do think that is what it is, and it's because too much sanitizer, then why is my sanitizer reading low?Reply
DinAustin Posted: 11/12/2015
I have found that draining the pool and starting fresh is the easiest and most cost efficient way to take care of the problem. After spending a few hundred dollars on chemicals I did eventually have to drain the pool. I live in Cedar Park Texas and water rates are extremely high. The cost of refilling my pool was so much cheaper.Reply
InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 6/18/2014
Lmk - You have too much "stabilizer" not "sanitizer". Stabilizer or cyanuric acid, is added to help reduce the loss of chlorine due to direct sunlight.Reply
Actual Pool Professional Posted: 1/25/2019
I love how you try to make them believe that it’s most likely going to be that their stabilizer levels are too high. Pardon me ladies and gentlemen, but I’m a true pool professional with over 19 years of experience in this business, as I am the assistant manager of a small family pool supply store. Now, in 19 years of dealing with anywhere from 10-50 customers per year with this exact problem, and in those 19 years, only twice has it had anything to do with Cyanaric Acid. Nitrate and Nitrite level is 99.98% of the time your problem. So how about we quit using algebra to fix our pools and do everyone here a favor, take it from a man that is a third generation swimming pool supply store manager and future owner. Here’s a table for you: Pool size. Chlor needed 0-10,000 gal. 4-gal 10k-20k gal. 8-gal 20k-30k gal. 12-gal 30k-40k gal. 16-gal 40k-50k gal. 20-gal Ok, I think that you can see how that works, but I must also advise you to make sure you aren’t buying liquid chlorine from box stores or large chain stores (family leisure) their chlorine is usually old liquid chlorine that is labeled as 12.5% liquid chlorine is actually bottled at, between 18-20%. Yes that does mean that buying your liquid chlorine at Walmart is basically like buying water that had chlorine in it last year. So visit a reputable local swimming pool supply shop in your area and buy the necessary amount of liquid chlorine into the pool with the pump running while the sun sets, then check your total and free chlorine levels the next morning. They will both be sky high and no one should enter the pool until those levels get below 5 ppmReply
InyoPools Product Specialist Robert M. Posted: 1/25/2019
Hello APP - We appreciate the feedback. However, a high cyanuric level (CYA) will definitely impact chlorine. Nitrates and Nitrites have nothing to do with "chlorine lock". If your chlorine is low, either from not adding enough or a high CYA level, algae can bloom and feed on nitrates and nitrites. However, the root cause is not nitrites and nitrates. If you don't believe us, check out an article titled "New Thinking: Chlorine/Cyanuric Acid in Balance". It's written by a chemical specialist, Robert Lowry, and backed up by a theoretical chemist. Our friends at TroubleFreePool.com would love to have this conversation with you. They firmly believe in the issues with high CYA. You may find a thread titled "High Nitrates" very interesting.Reply
Lmk Posted: 6/18/2014
I don't understand? If I have chlorine lock, which I do think that is what it is, and it's because too much sanitizer, then why is my sanitizer reading low?Reply
Anonymous Posted: 5/30/2014
Thanks, Last year had same problem. I super chlorinated last year, this time I will try the chlorine free method. Draining is tghe last option. I have a huge pool, over 50 k gallons, neighbors will complain.Thanks for the choices!!
Jean
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