A.O. Smith 1.5 HP, 56Y Frame, Up-Rate Motor (b2854, 717721624)

PART#B854

MANUFACTURERMagnetek

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MANUFACTURER CODEB2854

DIMENSIONS8" L x 6.5" W x 13" D

ALTERNATE PART #'S10-177216-24, 1103665400, 13773, 168453, 177216, 177475, 177972, 187333, 193986, 355340, 54004, 5KC39UN6086X, 5U125, 7-177216-24, 7-193986-24, 75234, 8-177216-24, 90106931, A100FL, A100FLL, B693, B854, C1246, C48L2EB103, EB854, F56AA40A01, P718, SQ115U, SQD15UP1, USQ1152, V54004


Product Description

  • Frame number - 56Y
  • HP - 1.5
  • Amp Draw - 8.0 @ 230V 16.0 @ 115V
  • RPM - 3450
  • Voltage - 230/115
  • Service Factor - 1.10
  • Hz - 60
  • Threaded Shaft
  • Overload Protector: Auto
Motor Dimensions Motor Dimensions Motor Image Motor Image
Motor Name:
1.5 HP B854 & B2854 Replacement Pool Motor
HP:
1.5 HP
Speed:
Single
RPM:
3450 RPM
Volts:
230/115 V
Amps:
8/16 amp
Service Factor:
1.1
Total HP:
1.65 HP
Frame:
56Y
Stock #:
B854 or B2854
Shaft:
Threaded
Overload Protector:
Auto
Dimension Letter:
C
Dimensions:
12.8 in.
Commonly Used On:
Sta-Rite: Max-E-Glas, Max-E-Glas II, Dura-Glas, Dura-Glas II, Dyna-Glas, Dyna-Max. Pentair: Whisperflo, Challenger, Pinnacle and Anthony AR2 Series

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Question

Asked on 05/22/2016 by Mike

Will this motor work as a replacement t for my pentair WF-26 1.5 hp pump?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/22/2016 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

Hi Mike yes this is the correct replacement motor for your Pentair Whisperflo WF-26 pump. Also whenever you replace your motor you will want to go with a Pentair Whisperflo Shaft Seal Kit as if you use your old seals they have a tendency to leak.

Question

Asked on 05/20/2016 by MNevarez

Pool Motor I currently have is very noisy which came with the house. We own a Purex Triton Challeger 1 1/2 HP Motor. It's a high performance pump and it's for PAC-FAB. AMB:40 TYPE:CX FORM: KJM FR: Y56Y RPM:3450 Hz: 60 PH:1 Code: J Serial BU3-03 and it says horizontal with vent holes down. We want to make sure we purchase the correct motor. Also, what is the cost of replacement motor. The front housing still in good shape also PAC-FAB.

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/21/2016 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

If the Service Factor (S.F) on your motor label indicates 1.47 or 1.5 then you will need the 1.5 HP Full Rate Challenger Motor if your S.F indicates 1.10 then you will require the Challenger 1.5 HP Up Rate Motor. When replacing your motor we would suggest a Challenger Seal Kit to make sure you have no leaking with the replacement motor.

Question

Asked on 05/16/2016 by LUIS MANUEL

is thermal protector replaceable? what's the part number?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/18/2016 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Hi Luis, The thermal protector is replaceable if you're able to locate one. We do not sell this part.

Question

Asked on 05/16/2016 by Yolanda

Does this pump come with gaskets

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/16/2016 by Product Specialist Hector F.

The motors do not come with any seals or gaskets besides the slinger. For the seal kit we would need the model of the front pump housing that the motor bolts to in order to cross reference that kit for you.

Question

Asked on 04/09/2016 by Jean

Would please tell me which propeller (Brand and model#) will fit the A.O. Smith 1.5 HP, 56Y Frame, Up-Rate Motor (b2854, 717721624)? Thank you.

Inyo Answer

Answered on 04/11/2016 by Product Specialist Hector F.

The impeller type would be dependant on the front pump housing model that the motor bolts to.

Question

Asked on 04/02/2016 by Mike

My motor is slow to start but when running runs well. I think the issue is the capacitor. Can this be purchased separately? Thanks

Inyo Answer

Answered on 04/05/2016 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Hi Mike, This motor does not have a Start Capacitor only a Run Capacitor which is p/n 5VR0303.

Question

Asked on 03/16/2016 by kathy

I have a A.O. Smith 3/4 HP B625 I believe it is part#7-173848-23. Which is the replacement.

Inyo Answer

Answered on 03/17/2016 by Product Specialist Charlie R.

Kathy,If your motor part # reads B625(7-173848-23) then your replacement is B625 and can be seen here. Don't forget to get a new shaft seal as well!

Question

Asked on 03/13/2016 by David

I am replacing a motor on my WhisperFlo WFE-6 pump. I see that this motor is an "Up-Rate" motor. I've read that if you go with an Up Rate motor, that this may require you to increase the HP, is this true. Or, is this the proper motor for my pump. thanks

Inyo Answer

Answered on 03/14/2016 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Hi David, The WFE-6 pump replacement motor will be the A.O. Smith 1.5 HP EE Full Rate Motor (B2842) which has a total hp of 2.21, verses this B854 motor has a total hp of 1.65. The A.O. Smith 2 HP, 56Y Frame, Up-Rate Motor (B855) would be the up rate replacement for the WFE-6 pump. We also would recommend getting the Pentair/Purex Whisperflo Tune Up Kit GOKIT32 or GOKIT32SALT depending on the your sanitizer.

Question

Asked on 03/11/2016 by steven

will this replace the flopro 1.5 hp model# fhpm1.5

Inyo Answer

Answered on 03/15/2016 by Product Specialist Alan M.

Hello Steven and thank you for your question. Yes! The A.O. Smith 1.5 HP, 56Y Frame, Up-Rate Motor will replace your current motor. We recommend replacing your Shaft Seal when changing motors. Also, inspect any other o-rings that may appear damaged or worn. You can find the Jandy Flo Pro Pump FHPM parts here. Thanks again, Alan.

Question

Asked on 03/04/2016 by Thomas

Will this motor work for a Hayward Tristar pump? The current motor is a Century 1.5hp, 1.10 sf, y56y frame, 230/115V.

Inyo Answer

Answered on 03/07/2016 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Hi Thomas, This motor can replace the current motor that you have on your Hayward Tristar pump.

Question

Asked on 03/01/2016 by

Is this a new or refurbished motor?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 03/01/2016 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Hi, This is a new motor that is backed by a 1 year manufacture warranty.

Question

Asked on 02/12/2016 by Marilyn Ballantyne

I need a century centurions pool motor Part 7-177215-04 HP 1

Inyo Answer

Answered on 02/15/2016 by Product Specialist Andy O.

Marilyn- When I searched for your  7-177215-04 I was able to pull up B853 A.O. Smith 1 HP, 56Y Frame, Up-Rate Motor (B2853).

Question

Asked on 01/03/2016 by Hector Solis

Need a replacement motor for a pentair model 346206 , what part numbers do i need? thanks

Inyo Answer

Answered on 01/04/2016 by Product Specialist Matt S.

The correct motor replacement for the 346206 Pentair Challenger motor is the B854 1.5 HP Uprated. Do not forget to add a shaft seal or GOKIT5 to the motor replacement.

Question

Asked on 11/29/2015 by Jason

I have a 5KC39UN6086X Marathon motor that I would like to replace with this model. It is attached to a Jandy PHPM 1.0. I noticed that a shaft seal is recommend when purchasing a new motor; however, I'm not exactly sure which one to purchase. It's a saltwater pool with a Jandy PHPM 1.0 Housing. Thanks.

Inyo Answer

Answered on 12/01/2015 by Product Specialist Charlie R.

Jason,All of your seals pertain to the make and model of your pump end. The correct shaft seal for your Jandy PHPM pump is 5020-086 (old style) or 5020-087 (new style).The best way to tell is by the serial number listed on the pump body (housing). The old style seal is used with serial #s prior to P08FF0001. If you have the above serial # or later, you would use the new style shaft seal.

Question

Asked on 11/23/2015 by george

how hard is it to replace the front & rear bearings on this motor & does it take special tools? thanks, ps. the rear bearing only lasts for about 6 months then starts growling, i take it in to local shop at 100.00 a crack. they have replaced the bell end twice?? i also have tried another shop with same results. is there a heavy duty rear bearing for this motor or is this common, thnx

Inyo Answer

Answered on 11/24/2015 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Hi George, We have >Part 1< and >Part 2< of How To Replace the Bearings in a Pool Pump Motor that will show you how to complete this task.

Question

Asked on 11/23/2015 by george

whats the difference in a up-rate & full rate motor? how do i tell which one i have

Inyo Answer

Answered on 11/24/2015 by Product Specialist Charlie R.

George,Up rated and full rated help determine your total horsepower. I recommend you take a look at our blog, "Is a 1.0HP Motor the Same as a 1.5HP Motor?" to read up a little more on the difference and how you can determine which one you currently have.

Question

Asked on 11/14/2015 by Tim

I have A. O. Smith serial # BY06-16, Part # 7-193633-24. 1.5 hp. Type cx, Fr P56j What would be the replacement part for this motor.

Inyo Answer

Answered on 11/17/2015 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Hi Tim, The A.O. Smith 1.5 HP Full Rate 56J Motor (B129) would be the correct motor that will replace p/n 7-193633-24.

Question

Asked on 09/15/2015 by Sascha

Can I use the whisperflow shaft seal for this model? and is it the ps 1000?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 09/15/2015 by Product Specialist Hector F.

If the model of the pump housing is a Whisperflo or a model that uses the PSR 1000 seal then you can. Shaft seals needed depend on the model of the pump housings that motors are mounted to.

Question

Asked on 09/15/2015 by Phil

Model number ECM16SQU is the variable speed replacement for model B854 (B2854). Will this fit on the Jandy PHPM1.5 Pump housing?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 09/15/2015 by Product Specialist Andy O.

Phil, the 1.65 HP Variable Speed Pool Pump Motor Square Flange ECM16SQU will work on your Jandy Plus HP 2006-Current PHPM & PHPF. I would also recommend a shaft seal.

Question

Asked on 09/12/2015 by Phil

Is there a variable speed motor option for this motor?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 09/15/2015 by Product Specialist Robert M.

Hello Phil - Model number ECM16SQU is the variable speed replacement for model B854 (B2854).

Question

Asked on 08/31/2015 by

I have a centurion pool/spa motor, part #0-193985-04 and need to know how many gallons per minute/hour it cycles? Please email me the info. THANKS!

Inyo Answer

Answered on 08/31/2015 by Product Specialist Brian M.

Unfortuanately, the answer can not be gotten from the motor alone. We would need to know what pump housing this motor is attaching too. The aquadynamics of the pump housing is what affects the GPM.

Question

Asked on 08/21/2015 by Steve

I like to rebuild my Jandy PHPM1.0 into 1.5 HP pump. My plan is buy this motor with #5020-141 impeller. What else do I need to buy?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 08/21/2015 by Product Specialist Andy O.

Steve- You are correct, that impeller part number 5020-141 Impeller, 1 Hp Full, 1-1/2 Hp Uprate, is the correct one. I would also recommend chang changing out the shaft seal.

Question

Asked on 08/06/2015 by Tanya

We need to replace an A. O. Smith Century Centurion motor, not sure if this is the one we need. Label says: Serial: BY11-12, Part 7-177475-20. We have WhisperFlo WF-26. The pool guy said we need a full rate, but found the pump model number under up rate.

Inyo Answer

Answered on 08/06/2015 by Product Specialist Hector F.

You can use this model motor or the full rate B848. Both thave the same general specifications.

Question

Asked on 07/21/2015 by Paul

Is this the correct replacement for an AC Smith Centurion switchless motor part# O-193986-24? If so other than this motor what else will I need to successfully replace the old burned out motor part# O-1963986.24?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 07/21/2015 by Product Specialist Hector F.

Yes this is the correct motor replacement for you. The only other items we would recommend for your motor job would be the go kit that contains the seals and gaskets. We would need the front plastic pump housing model that the motor is mounted to in order to cross reference that seal kit for you.

Question

Asked on 07/10/2015 by Dan

does this motor have steel bearings?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 07/11/2015 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

Hi Dan, yes this motor does use a steel caged bearing. You may view the Bearings Used in This Motor here.

Question

Asked on 06/25/2015 by Jeff

I have a Jandy Stealth 2hp pump motor that went bad. This pump is only used for two waterfalls, and pumps too much water and causes overflow problems. Can I switch just the motor out to a 1.5 hp while keeping the rest of the pump assembly intact?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 06/25/2015 by Product Specialist Brian M.

Depending on the model of Jandy Stealth, yes you can. There are two different versions. To switch down a motor size you would just need to downsize the impeller and the diffuser. Other than that, all the other parts can stay the same.

Question

Asked on 06/19/2015 by ray

is this motor the same is the AO Smith Cat: B854 Part: 0-177216-24

Inyo Answer

Answered on 06/19/2015 by Product Specialist Dennis R.

Hi Ray, Yes b2854, 717721624 is the same as B854 Part: 0-177216-24. When you check your motor label against the picture of the listed motor, the specification will be the same.

Question

Asked on 06/08/2015 by ervin juhasz

The only number that doesn't match is the code mine is a F

Inyo Answer

Answered on 06/08/2015 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

If everything else matches up and the code is the only thing that is off then you would be fine with this motor.

Question

Asked on 06/04/2015 by Reyna

I have a whisper flow motor serial # BJ 12-185 part 8-177456-03 that I need to replace. What replacement motor do I need?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 06/04/2015 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Reyna, Based on p/n 8-177456-03 the replacement motor is a 1.5 HP Dual Speed Full Rate  Motor (B983), you'll also need a Whisperflo Tune Up Kit (GOKIT).

Question

Asked on 06/04/2015 by Carl

I need to replace a Centurion motor - part number 10-168787-07 56y will this work for me? Thanks!

Inyo Answer

Answered on 06/04/2015 by Product Specialist Andy O.

Carl- No the motor you need is a Motor 56y Sqfl Full 1.5hp (b849). The B854 is an uprated motor,based off the part number you provided you have a fullrate motor.

Question

Asked on 06/03/2015 by ezra

will this motor fit jandy shpm ?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 06/03/2015 by Product Specialist Wes B.

Ezra, Yes the B854 will be the correct replacement motor for your SHPM pump.

Question

Asked on 05/15/2015 by Vasant

I have A.O.Smith B848 Centurion 1.0 HP motor, Can I replace1.5HP B2848 motor instead?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/16/2015 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

Hi Vasant, If you currently have a B848 motor then I would suggest staying with the 1 HP B2848 Motor. The reason being is that most likely your filter was sized to be able to handle a 1 HP pump and possibly the 1-1/2 motor will be to powerful for your filter. If you decided you definitely want to go up to the 1-1/2 HP Motor than you would need the B2858 1-1/2 Full Rate Replacement Motor you will also need to change your impeller to a 1-1/2 HP impeller and we would need to know the model of your pump to make the impeller reccomendation.

Question

Asked on 05/11/2015 by Dan

I have a a.o.smith centurion 1.5 hp. Cat.-29, serial # 210083m, Part # 7-164304-24 3450 rpm Code H Is this the correct replacement.? Thanks

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/11/2015 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Dan, Base of of the information you've provided the correct replacement motor is P/N B129.

Question

Asked on 05/10/2015 by Marco

Do you carry a Tune-up kit for a waterway champion. I am looking to replace my current motor that is DOA & cannot find the Manufactures name on your tune up list. thanks

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/10/2015 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

Hi Marco, We do carry all of the Individual Parts for the Waterway Champion Pump but unfortunately there is not a tune up kit for the Champion pump so you would purchase the parts individually.

Question

Asked on 05/02/2015 by Brant Donaldson

what shaft seal goes on C105-137PEB impeller. and does impellers ever wear where shaft seal goes against impeller?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 05/02/2015 by Product Specialist Lennox H.

Brant, You have a Sta-Rite Dura-Glas/Max-E-Glas Pump. This pump have a STA-RITE SHAFT SEAL OEM (PRE-1998) and a STA-RITE SHAFT SEAL OEM (NEW STYLE) so you'll have determine which one you need. Yes, the impeller and diffuser do wear out over time.

Question

Asked on 04/26/2015 by Cathy

I need to replace a Magnatek Centurion Switchless Motor 1 1/2 HP, 3450 RPM, 230/115 v., Type CX. The part number is showing 8177080-40. Is this the correct replacement?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 04/27/2015 by Product Specialist Robert M.

Hello Catthy - The B854 motor would be the correct 1.5HP replacement motor.

Question

Asked on 04/18/2015 by Brant

What go kit goes with a.o.smith 1.5hp 56y frame up rate motor 717721624?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 04/19/2015 by Product Specialist Alex V.

Brant, The tune up kit is based on the pump housing model not the motor. If you can get us the pump model, we can help you find the correct kit.

Question

Asked on 03/17/2015 by gunter

What is your warranty on this item?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 03/18/2015 by Product Specialist Robert M.

Hello Gunter - This product has a one year warranty.

Question

Asked on 09/30/2014 by Guest

What are the dimensions on the shaft bearings or a part number and do you sell replacements?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 09/30/2014 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

The correct replacement bearing is part number 5270-31. The motor would require two. Here is a link to the bearing.http://www.inyopools.com/Products/07501352012909.htm

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Asked on 04/30/2013 by Guest

The frame number on my current motor is y56y and the one on the new B2854 motor shows a 56y. Does this make a difference?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 04/30/2013 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

Y56Y and 56Y frame motors are the same. There is no difference.

Question

Asked on 01/12/2012 by Guest

Why should I purchase a Tune Up Kit?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 01/12/2012 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

A Tune Up Kit includes all of the essential replacement seals and gaskets for the pump. The seals and gaskets should be replaced when installing a new motor on your pump. New seals will prevent the pump from leaking water or losing the prime. A Tune Up Kit will protect your motor and ensure that the pump is working efficiently.

Question

Asked on 01/12/2012 by Guest

Why do I need to purchase a new shaft seal?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 01/12/2012 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

We strongly recommend replacing the shaft seal. The purpose of a shaft seal is to prevent water from running down the shaft of the motor and into the motor housing. Water will damage the bearings and cause the motor to fail. A new shaft seal should be installed whenever a motor is replaced. The motor manufacturer can deny the warranty if the motor fails to due to water damage from a faulty shaft seal. To find your shaft seal you will need to visit our Pool Pump Parts Page or the Spa Pump Parts Page and select your make and model.

Question

Asked on 01/11/2012 by Guest

What is Service Factor?

Inyo Answer

Answered on 01/11/2012 by Product Specialist Patrick P.

Service Factor(SF) is a multiplier that when multiplied by the horsepower of the motor indicates the total permissible horsepower loading that may be carried when the motor is operating at rated voltage and frequency. The most important thing to remember when replacing a motor is that the replacement motor's horsepower times its service factor must be equal to or greater than the original motor's horsepower times its service factor. The Service Factor rating can be found on the motor label. See Step 4 of our How to Read a Pool Motor Label guide.

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Best of all is the wonderful customer service help provided by Inyopools. The product was here in the time specified and the price was considerably less than the 5 other companies I checked with first. The product was as specified and ordered and hasn't given me any problems to date. It was installed about a month ago.

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My old pump motor died. Our local pool service said they would gladly replace it for $310 + $150 for the service call and labor + $40 for the O ring kit. I went to your site and found that you sell the exact same motor for $180 and the proper Go Kit. I got the replacement motor and Go Kit ordered from you. It came very promptly. I watched the installation video you provided then installed the new motor myself quite easily. Ordering from INYOPools and installing the motor and O rings myself I saved $300 Vs. the quoted price from the local pool service company. I am quite please.

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