Part # ECM27CU
Warranty 18 Months
V-Green™
Versatility and performance best describe A. O. Smith's new V-Green™ variable speed pump motor with integrated timer. Capable of delivering superior energy savings of over 80% versus a standard single-speed motor, V-Green motors are well suited for pump applications ranging from 3/4 - 2.7 total horsepower (THP). Spurred by consumer interest in energy-saving products and government-mandated efficiency standards, the innovative V-Green variable speed ECM offers premium efficiency boosted by such features as Power Factor Correction, which raises overall efficiency while reducing input amps! The state-of-art user interface ensures programming ease and flexibility, with on-screen navigation, ergonomic selector switch, and pre-set programs for out-of-the-box operation. A. O. Smith's V-Green is Title 20** compliant and with three user-defined variable speeds is a superb choice for reducing energy consumption, for lowering overall pool ownership costs, and for satisfying regulatory requirements.
Round Flange Hayward Super Pump, Super II Pump & Max-Flo Pumps
** California's Title 20 legislation states that pumps > 1HP (total) must be 2-speed or variable speed, and must have a control to default to low speed (i.e. timer)
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Will this motor work on a 3 hp super pump ll SP3025X30LZ
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John, yes, the V-Green 2.7 HP Round Flange 56J Variable Speed Motor - ECM27CU would work as a variable speed replacement motor for your SP3025X30LZ pump.
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Does th ECM27CU come with a base
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John, no, the V-Green 2.7 HP Round Flange 56J Variable Speed Motor - ECM27CU does not come with a base. As long as the FR is the same as your old motor the ECM27CU should fit your existing base.
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I have a Hayward Super Pump 2610x15. I believe this exact variable speed motor will work with my pump. My question is...do I need to do any upgrades to the diffuser or impeller being that my pump is 1.5hp and this one here is capable of up to 2.7hp?
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You would need to change the impeller and diffuser if you are trying to get the full strength capacity out of the motor however that is a significant increase so more than likely you will not need that.
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My energy company offers a discount for replacing single speed with variable. They said I can replace just the motor with an Energy Star certified motor on my existing pump. Is this motor Energy Star certified?
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Hi, Jeff. Variable Speed Motors only do not qualify for any energy company rebates, ONLY complete pumps.
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Hi I have a Hayward dual speed 2.5HP (SP3020X252AZ) and is looking to upgrade to a variable speed. Is this the right model & if there are other parts that I need to get? Please also recommend a higher HP with variable speed (3HP + parts).
Thank you!
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Hi, David. This ECM27CU along with the Super II Pump Tune Up Kit - GOKIT2 or GOKIT2SALT are the parts you'll need. There is not an option with higher horsepower.
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I have a Jandy JHPU2.5 HP single speed pump for a 1.9k Gallon pool + Spa + Cleaner+Pentair 60 DE filter, and the piping is 2". I was told the 2.5 HP is too big for my use, with the SWG system.
Can I use this motor as replacement or should I consider the 1.6 HP VS V-green? I also have a Zodiac Aqualink RS8 automation. Can this motor with the automation system?
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Yes, this motor would be suitable replacement for your application and in order for this motor to communicate with your automation you would need part number 2517501-001.
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I need to replace an A.O. Smith RS1500 motor. I've seen from other questions that this will work. But is it worth 3 times the price in energy savings? And how hard is this ti wire in? Will I need an electrician or can I just replace motors and re-hook up the wires? Thanks for your help.
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Hi, Michael. To determine if the variable speed pump is worth the cost, you will have to calculate the Total Dynamic Head (TDH) of your pool. An electrian is not needed if you know what you're doing. You can use our How To Wire A Pool Pump guide for directions.
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Can I use a ECM27SQU in place of a ECM27CU?
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Unfortunately no because the SQU has a square flange motor face and the CU model has a round motor face. The model of the front pump housing that the motor bolts to will determine the motor that is compatible.
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I have a Jandy Stealth Pro SHPF2.0
Is this the right motor for it? What other components do I need to buy to do the install?
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The variable speed motor replacement is the model ECM27SQU and if you click here you will be directed to the parts diagram for your model pump. Keys 5, 13 and 15 are the most commonly replaced seals with this pump. You will need the pump housing serial number to confirm which shaft seal you will need.
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Hi,
I have an old Hayward NorthStar SP4010X20NS I took out of service because a) it was screaming when turned on and b) it was an energy hog and I replaced it with a VS pump. But I have this old NorthStar on my workbench and I am considering the VS motor replacement for use as my water feature pump.
Will this motor fit the NorthStar wet end ok? Any issues with doing so? And before I drop $700 on this project, is a wet-end likely to last forever?
Thanks for any insight.
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My Hayward single speed pump motor needs to be replaced. I would like to replace it with a variable motor. Can you please confirm which one is the appropriate motor. I am attaching pictures. Also, please let me know what additional parts I would need for this replacement. Finally, do you have any videos, literature that would be of help to me in doing the work. Thanks.
Hi, P. James. This ECM27CU - V-Green Variable Speed Motor along with the GOKIT2 or GOKIT2SALT are the parts you will need to make the conversion. You can check out our How To Replace the Motor on Your Pool Pump guide.
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Hello, I have a Hayward Super II K48N2N104 (SP-1620-Z1-BE) pump and looking to replace with variable speed. I see where you recommend the ECM16CU and also the ECM27CU. Mine is 2hp, is the 1.6 sufficient or do I need to go to 2.7?
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Hi, Dave. This ECM27CU is the correct variable speed replacement option. You will also need to get the Super II Pump Tune Up Kit - GOKIT2 or GOKIT2SALT.
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Did you end up replacing the Super II (SP-1620-Z1-BE) w/ the variable speed 2.7 HP motor - checking what your experience is
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Helo
Inyo pool
I am going to variable speed from single speed. I need replacement motor . Could please help me this ? Is it work with current equipment . I attach photo for all equipment
I appricate you help
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Hi, Sanjay. This ECM27CU is the correct motor for your current pump. You will also need to get the Super II Pump Tune Up Kit - GOKIT2 or GOKIT2SALT. You can use the RS-485 Network Connection or purchased the V-Green Automation Adapter Kit - 2517501-001 if you have available relays.
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I have a Jandy Stealth Series Model JHP2.0 pump controlled by my Jandy Aqualink RS controller.. Will this motor work on my present Aqualink RS controller or do I have to upgrade my Aqualink RS contoller board for this VSP motor to work. My present controller was installed back in 2005. Thank you.
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Hi, Johnny. You will no need to upgrade your Aqualink RS; however, you will need the V-Green Automation Adapter Kit - 2517501-001.
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what are the program set up requirements for a Goldline control system when you change to a VF drive ECM27CU?
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Hi, Ronnie. To use the ECM27CU motor with the Goldline controller, you will need the V-Green Automation Adapter Kit - 2517501-001. For programming and wiring instructions see the V-Green Automation Adapter Kit Manual.
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I have an existing 1.65 THP motor I would like to replace with a variable speed. Should I use the v-green 165 or is their any energy consumption advantage/ disadvantage in using the 270?...thanks, Vic.
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Hi, Vic M. The V-Green 270 would be more efficient using the 1.65 impeller. The 270 motor will not reach the max load working amps.
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I plan to replace pool pump Model Hayward K48M2N110 , 1.5 HP motor. what are the choices in single speed or variable speed motor.
Do I need addition parts, replacement , Kits, etc.
can you let me know , thanks
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Hi, Mohsin. The Century ECM27CU VS motor can be used to replace the Hayward K48M2N110 motor. I would recommend getting a tune up kit, bit we will need to know the model or name of the pump housing.
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I have a Century Variable speed pool pump with integrated timer (2517030 001 030 AD). The timer is no longer displaying information but the pump works fine. Can I get a replacement integrated timer? I only need the part that fits on top, four bolts and pigtail connection.
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Hi, Tyr. The Century V-Green 270 User Interface - 2520652-001 is the part that you will need.
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Hi, will this motor fit a Hayward Super Pump Model # SP2615X20 ? Thanks
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Hi John, Yes this motor will fit a Hayward Super Pump Model # SP2615X20. We would also suggest the Hayward Super Pump Seal Kit when replacing your motor.
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I would like to verify if the "2.7 HP Variable Speed Pool Pump Motor Round Flange" will fit my Super II pump. My current pump has gone out.
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Hi Rich, yes this motor will mount onto a Hayward Super II pump. When replacing your motor we would suggest the Super II Tune Up Kit
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I have 1 1/2 single speed hayward super pump (sp2610x15) will this motor fit my pump
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Hi, Teddy. Yes, the ECM27CU VS motor will fit the Hayward SP2610X15 pump. However, if you're not going to replace your impeller or need the additional HP to match the 2.7 THP of this motor I would recommend the ECM16CU VS motor. I would also recommend getting the Hayward Super Pump Tune Up Kit GOKIT3 or GOKIT3SALT.
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Does this motor come without the VFD & confirm it fits the Hayward Super II pump that currently has the 2 speed motor on it.
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Yes, it fits the Super 2 and you will be able to control the frequency or RPM's.
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I have Jandy Stealth Series Model JHP2.0 pump. I may have to replace its single speed 2 HP motor, Century Centurion, A.O. Smith CAT B130. Can ECM27CU be physically connected to the pump body just like B130 motor? Can AquaLink RS control panel and its remote control, AquaLink RS PDA, control ECM27CU? Does ECM27CU have remote control?
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Good morning Ali, Yes, This motor will fit. It has the same frame size and the controller will link with your aqua link system.
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Hi
I have a Hayward SP2607X10 with a 1HP motor C48K2N143B1. The motor housing is in bad shape – I can’t decide if I need a replacement motor or motor and pump – the pump appears fine.
I’m clear that I will to move to a variable speed motor for energy saving. I’m not wedded to Hayward. Will switching to a PureLine PL2605 pump provide me with anything different than if I went with the V-Green ECM27CU motor and stayed with the existing pump?
Thanks,
Lee.
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Hello Lee, For a brand new SP2607X10 it would be 419.00, now for the motor would be 129.99, then the seal kit would be 37.95, and the housing would be 189.99 so if you are looking at all vs the whole pump; I would go with full pump. You would be replacing the motor, seals, housing. Still if the housing is the problem then that is just 189.99.
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I have a Hayward Super II pump model # sp3020eeaz with 3hp A.O. smith motor Type CX, PR Y56J (C face round flange). Will this fit?
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I purchased the variable speed motor and understand based on a manufacturer video that the timer controls can be taken off the motor and mounted separately with an adapter kit. Do you sell the adapter?
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Part number 2512723-001 is the Offboard Mounting Kit.
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Will this motor fit a Hayward RS 2000 2HP pump?
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Linda, Yes this will fit a Hayward RS2000 pump as long as there are no height restrictions (clearance above the motor/drive). Be sure to replace the shaft seal when replacing the motor.
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3 questions, I think: 1) Can this motor replace the AO Smith SK1152? (1.5 HP) I don't see a compatibility list, or I missed it while searching. 2) Can you point all of us to a guide to choosing between the 2.7 and 1.65 HP versions--maybe a GPM rating or something of that sort. 3) Do you carry a pump/motor combo that uses this motor? If it doesn't fit my pump, I think I want this motor anyway. Thanks!
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Hi James, This motor will not replace the SK1152 motor because the SK1152 shaft is keyed. The 2.7 motor has higher total hp and an interface with additional features. We have the PureLine PL2606 and the Jacuzzi 94026140 pumps that uses this motor.
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Will this fit a Hayward Northstar pump? Do you have a vs motor that would fit a Hayward Northstar?
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No, unfortunately, there are no variable speed motors that we know of that will fit the Hayward Northstar pump. There is a dual-speed motor that will bolt up with that Northstar pump.
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We have a Hayward Super II Pump Model# K45N2N104 S/N 8B05, 2hp, 1.55KW, 230 volts, RPM 3450 56J Frame. Can I purchase a ECM27CU for this? It doesn't look like a fit for the round flange. I know it should be the right motor, but I just want to be sure before I purchase it. Can I return it if for some reason it doesn't fit?
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Brad, This 2.7 HP Variable Speed Motor Round Flange P/N ECM27CU can replace your current motor. We also recomend getting a Tune Up Kit which consist of the replacement shaft seal, housing gasket, diffuser gasket and housing lid o-ring.
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What is the warranty on the AO Smith variable speed
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Hi Harvey,The motor is warranted against defects in materials and workmanship for one year from the date of installation or twenty-four months from the date of manufacture, whichever comes first.Thank you,
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The Most Helpful Review
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(5 out of 5 stars) Great upgrade!
Reviewed By: Mike B. from Garrison, NY ()
Pros: Quiet, easy to install, energy efficient
Cons: More $ initially
Person I spoke to at INYO was incredibly helpful and knowledgable. Our Haywood pump died, and rather than simply replace it with another low-efficiency pump, we ended up getting this variable-speed pump motor instead. It was "plug and play" with the existing hardware, and was up and running quickly. It is a dramatically better and more efficient pump motor than the basic Haywood, and will likely pay for itself in energy savings in a season or 2.
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(5 out of 5 stars) Will only buy from INYO Pools
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Pump is very quiet. Saving me lots of money from day one. Customer service is the best. They kept in touch with me very thankful. Will only buy from INYOn pools now. Thank you for all your help.
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(3 out of 5 stars) Was Not Able to Just Replace the Faulty Motor
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The design concept of the variable speed pump is very good. The electronic controller is also good. However, the motor itself is of a very poor manufacturing quality. I bought one pump in 2015 and had to replace the entire motor and controller system recently because the permanent magnet on the motor is poorly manufactured. The rotor magnets are glued with a poor quality epoxy. The magnets were chipped and separated from the rotor then became lodged inside the stator. It was a pity, I was not able to just replace the faulty motor. INYOPOOL needs to address the quality issue.
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(3 out of 5 stars) It's Ok
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Didn't have this pump a full year and the LCD display went bad. Then I find out that you have to completely pull the motor off the pump and provide a picture of the face of the pump before they will do anything with the warranty. And that even if the motor is fine but the display is bad. The savings I'm getting from this pump is ok but it's not as much as a lot of the online videos boast. I haven't seen anything more than a 15% saving on my electric bill. Not happy about having to pull the motor to take a picture. Then put it back together to wait to see what they do with the warranty. You also have to buy another pump seal if the motor is replaced.
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(5 out of 5 stars) Perfect replacement for B129 AO Smith motor with Hayward Super II pump.
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Perfect fit to replace a worn out AO Smith B129 motor (Screaming bearings) with a Hayward Super II pump. Easy to change, powered right up. Love the variable speeds and how quiet the motor is when running at lower RPMs. This is my first experience with a variable speed motor so had to take time to understand all the options and features. Called Inyo Pools to confirm going with 2.7 HP over 1.65 ECM16CU since B129 is 1.5 HP but is actually 1.95 HP with 1.3 service factor.
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(5 out of 5 stars) Good investment,
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Easy to install with existing pump housing. Based on current schedule, the estimated power usage is around 23 dollars per month. Which is way lower then my old pump. It's also very quiet and easy to program using the controller.
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(5 out of 5 stars) Variable Speed Motor
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Easy to install and program! Much quieter than older motor and I see the cost savings on pool energy used!
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(5 out of 5 stars) a great choice for me to upgrade my Hayward super 2 pump motor
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Found this one while searching for a new pump----- this is a great solution for anyone with an older pump. I have a hayward super II. I had a 12 year old 2 1/2 hp 2 speed motor that was making noise, leaking and running very hot so it was time to change. I have been looking to upgrade to a VSP to save energy for a long time but they run about 1300 + installation I was planning to do it myself but if you saw the way my pump is plumbed..... it would take a lot of effort and about 3 valve changes (no room to cut pipe) at about $75 each to do it. I found the direct replacement motor ($440) and found this one - it is a drop in replacement motor for about any pump: you have to make sure to order the correct mount square or round but you leave the 'wet end' - the part with the pipes in place and just change out the motor part so it is the same as any other motor change. The up front cost was $200 more but according to the energy calculator I should save that pretty quickly- the draw on the other was 10.2 amps at 220v for a total of about 2400 watts on high (less on low speed) --- running at about 8 hours a day year round, over the years the new one will probably save me quite a bit because we all know electricity does not get cheaper. The challenge was figuring out how to put this in place of my 2 speed pump and would it work with my older controller?- a jandy all-button remote with outdoor power center. I researched for a while and found out that the answer is yes and no -- you cannot control the pump speed with my controller but you can control of and on so the pump speed and run times are controlled with the new pumps on board controller, I just set the indoor controller to 'on' and leave it alone and adjust the speed at the pump itself-- not all that big a deal because how often do you change it anyway? my other concern was freeze control as I live where it does freeze sometimes but that isn't a real big problem because the pump has its own (read the manual online) and even if the indoor controller gets turned off, it will turn on if the temp drops below 39 so that shoudn't be a problem. The other issue I had was the two speed relay in the power center- I left that in place but disconnected the power to it and its relay so the fourth wire (that gave power to the low speed side) is disconnected on both ends for safety. once I figured that out wiring was easy (AS ALWAYS MAKE SURE POWER IS OFF AT THE BREAKER BEFORE TOUCHING ANY OF THAT - COMMON SENSE BUT HEY, TO IMPORTANT NOT TO MENTION). i love that the wires are on top so it is very easy to connect and as soon as I got it all together and turned it on, it worked perfectly with no leaks. --- the perfect solution for energy savings without replacing the whole pump! Another small thing that is not mentioned in any of the instructions is there is a thick rubber piece that I could not figure out what it was for until after I put it all back together ---- it goes on the old pump base under the new motor to support it like a motor mount It was VERY hard to install after the fact so when you open it up and see that piece, look at the old motor frame under the pump and see if there is a place to stick it as the new motor is smaller than the old one and without this support, all the weight would be on the bolts attaching the motor to the pump part- probably not a big deal but I am OCD enough to have to put it in there -- believe me, it was not easy after the motor is installed but done now and no more annoying rattle from the pump so you do kinda need it. The new pump motor is much quieter than the old one but can't speak to energy cost yet as my first bill hasn't come but I expect it to me much lower. This is a great investment if you need a new pump motor but the pump par itself is in good shape so, good luck! Id defiantly consider this one, its a great idea and much cheaper than replacing the entire pump.
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